It started in 1993. Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy did not renew his permit for his cattle to graze on public land. This went on for years with Bundy thinking he had natural rights to do what he wanted as some of his ancestors were morons who worked the land in the 1800's .... other ancestors were from Northern Ireland which explains his overwhelming sense of entitlement to do as he pleases because of tradition.
He gained support of groups such as the Oath Keepers, the White Mountain Militia and the Praetorian Guard militias .... racist white dudes with guns who believe that the U.S. government is illegitimate.
He became a folk hero and was called a patriot by Fox news loving meat sacks .... until he showed his true colours and made comments about Negros and Mexicans, then the likes of Sean Hanity couldn't distance themselves fast enough.
The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) gave Bundy back the cattle they had confiscated for trespassing and the US government backed off from having a shootout with a load of white people, many of them veterans and ex police.
The Vegas shooters who shoot dead 2 police officers and an intervening armed good guy with a gun were drawn to the Bundy stand off but they didn't really care about the land stuff and so were asked to leave.
It reminds me of how Timothy McVeigh was at the Waco siege handing out pro gun/anti-government leaflets. Like attracts like.
Now for the latest excuse to try to start a civil war. In Oregon in 2006 Dwight and Steven Hammond were charged with committing arson on public land. They had slaughtered a herd of deer (with witnesses) and then set fire to 130 acres to cover up any evidence. Arson puts lives in danger but the likes of the Bundys don't see anything wrong with this because the land and the deer belongs to the people .... as long as they are the people.
After a march supporting the Hammonds who were sentenced to 5 years, some 100 odd armed men including Ammon Bundy and his two brothers, the sons of Cliven then took over a building of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Oregon. It was unoccupied due to the holidays. This is a peaceful armed takeover but if you want to join, bring yer guns.
Bundy doesn't like the term militia but this group of white blokes are all armed and some in military gear.
"We are not terrorists, we are concerned citizens and realize we have to act if we want to pass along anything to our children."
The Bible is make believe and the Constitution is not written in stone.
Blaine Cooper who started a GoFundMe page for "gas and expenses" during the Nevada stand off is at the wildlife refuge so yeah, outside agitators are on the scene. They tried to recruit locals but were told to wise up.
The BLM do at times over reach their authority and the main problem that Ammon Bundy has is that they own vast amounts of land that should belong to the people. Does Bundy open up his land for people to do whatever they want? I bet he has 'no trespassing' signs up. The mission of the BLM is "to sustain the health, diversity, and productivity of the public lands for the use and enjoyment of present and future generations."
Imagine not wanting cattle to graze willy nilly on public lands or laws against setting fires to it. I think people are mixing up being free with being a cunt again. There isn't much wildlife left so it has to be managed, such as herds of deer, it's called hunting season, not a free for all season.
Bundy wants these lands for the people to
What they want is known as Communism, are we going to stand for that?
The people should be able to cut down all the trees and divert rivers and hunt beaver ... oh and we need someone managing it who will collect the fees we have to charge the hunters and the logging companies etc .... no blacks obviously, since it's Oregon and we don't mean 'those' people.
Thank you for standing up for me in this matter that so effects my life.
So these armed
The fucken government with their fees and taxes .... oh, wasn't there a war so Americans could pay their own taxes? Didn't Americans die to install an American government that could tax and charge the American people? Isn't capitalism American?
These free loading types really chap my thighs. If Washington could turn on those who helped him fight the British during an event known as The whiskey rebellion then shouldn't Obama send all those special forces types who just had Jade helm training in to sort this bunch of commie yahoos out?
Should people like the Bundy's be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want because .... Merica! Times change and ranchers can no longer call the shots unless they get some so-called patriots riled up.
They seem like self entitled white folk who think that because they can trace their family back to 19th century Utah that they have a right to the land. The Injuns thought that too but will the government do battle with white folks? Waco was very bad PR.
If idiots like Payne and Cooper fire off a panicked shot there maybe the war they want as these cunts are trying to get martyred and playing the odds of not getting shot.
These guys are terrorists and very un-American. These are wolves in sheep's clothing, don't get fooled by them. Depending on what the government does or doesn't do we'll soon see if the law is colour blind or not.
If a load of armed Muslims or black kids with BB guns took over a Federal building what would happen? ... there would be more news coverage for a start.