Tuesday, 26 May 2009

What Did You Do During The War?

John Demjanjuk aged 89, was deported to Germany from the United States to face allegations of being an accessory to the murder of 29,000 Jews and others as a Nazi guard at the Sobibor death camp.

Ukrainian born Demjanjuk, was sent to Sobibor as part of a legion of foreign SS “volunteers.” He had been a soldier in the Red Army and he was recruited while being held prisoner in a German P.O.W. camp.

The retired Ohio autoworker was born “Ivan” Demjanjuk and the Israelis tried to charge him with being “Ivan the Terrible” a notoriously sadistic guard at the Treblinka death camp.

The Israeli Supreme Court overturned Demjanjuk’s conviction in 1993 after evidence emerged that he was not in fact that “Ivan.” Since he was simply a guard at another camp the Israelis did not regard this as sufficient reason to continue to hold him.

Spot the war criminal as he aides the enemy.

In West Germany in 1968 a general amnesty was posted for those lower level guards. Many former guards have been let off the hook and even before the amnesty Germany went lightly on many war criminals.

Josef Oberhauser an SS officer who in 1965 was found guilty for his part in the murder of 300,000. Oberhauser was sentenced to four years and six months in prison thats 7.8 minutes for each of his victims.

By the same reckoning Demjanjuk should get about 5 months. In fact it turns out that Oberhauser would have been in charge of Demjanjuk at Sobibor, its a small world after all.

So now Germany is gagging to charge Demjanjuk for his minor role even though they themselves refuse to extradite their own war criminals.

In June 2005, an Italian court found ten former members of the Waffen SS Reichsführer division guilty of mass murder for their roles in the infamous massacre of 560 civilians in the town of Sant’Anna di Stazzema none of them were extradited and will miss out on the fun to be had in prison and live out their lives in Germany.

Lock the fucker up , Demjanjuk did unto others so it wouldn't get done to him, its karma but its pick and choose karma. In 2002 the German justice minister Herta Däubler-Gmelin who was the daughter of a famous Nazi war criminal compared George Bush To Hitler.

Germany has never been right in the head.

When Germany invaded Poland in 1939 from the west Russia invaded Poland about a week later from the east. They met in the middle and built a border together. The Russians then set about executing 20,000 Poles who were military officers or high in society.

The Russians worked with the Nazis until Hitler turned on them and then they formed an alliance with the US and Great Britain. In Britain there were many Poles in exile. They got the chance to ask Stalin where all those poeple were. Stalin said they must have escaped.

Since the fall of the wall info has been released about Russian activities .Now Russians come forward and tell how they rounded up all unwanted people for execution.

So many people doing the wrong thing just like politicans and their expense accounts. Is karma over worked ? or does it need a kick up the arse like the U.N. does?


Donn Coppens said...

That Nuremburg photo is beyond priceless!

TROLL Y2K said...

The Nuremburg photo is disgusting and contrary to the text. Perhaps it was meant to highlight Euro-Trash stupidity and hypocracy?

Hate to admit it, but the Brits did a MUCH better job sorting out the socialist Nazi filth from the (relatively) innocent German Soldiers than the Yanks did.

The Yanks were pretty craven about giving amnesty to socialist Nazi filth with useful technical/strategic knowledge.

And pretty incompetent in mistaking Concentration Camp thugs for (relatively) innocent soldiers and civilians.

The nastiest of Nazis FLOCKED to the American zone in Berlin to avoid the Brits and Russkies.

Anonymous said...

There is a lot to be saied ... but not tonight. By the way: Deutsche werden nicht ausgeliefert. This SS-division you name does not exist.
The rat-line worked well, the Americans sacked in the "specialists" ranging from missile experts to torturers like Barbie. Demjanjuk - ach je ... it's basically the wrong place here: In Germany you will find no myths about the Third Reich, Ivan is stateless in the moment and of Ukrainian descent: You want to see Nazis now? Go East, young man!

By the way Troll: What is that "socialist Nazi" bla about? And "Eurotrash stupidity"? Yer American, eh? So the your naivité in historical matters may be seen after ...

Donn Coppens said...

I also love the picture of the Nazi getting directions to America.

"Allo-allo-allo Gerry.
Off to take on the Yanks are we? You follow this road doon to the Wharf..find das boat that has the big banner what reads "FDR YOU SUCK" and don't forget to order the Halibut..it's lovely it t'is."

TROLL Y2K said...


Want 3 examples of Euro-Trash stupidity?

1) The High Official of the German Government who said GW Bush was worse than Hitler. It should be noted she said that when Bush THREATENED to enforce the Cease-Fire Agreement Saddam had signed by using military force. So he was " worse than Hitler" BEFORE action was taken in March 2003.

2) The hundreds of German Euro-Trash who cheered when she said it.

3) The millions of Euro-Trash who actually believe that GW Bush was worse than Hitler.

Can't speak for all Americans, but most of the ones I know have a good understanding of history. Just as most intelligent Europeans understand that their large and growing Euro-Trash element are slogan-chanting morons.

Anonymous said...

Who shall that be? A lot of people compared Bush junior with Adolf. It goes without further mention that such a comparison is crap. (Adolf at least was democratically elected.) But I strongly doubt that you find a "High Official of the German Gouvernment" giving such a statement.
So excuse me now, have to go and burn the American flag. That's what we Euro trash stupids do ritually every second evening.

Anonymous said...

When Poland was divided between Germany and Russia 1939 it was only the fulfilling of the treaty between both countries - Stalin did not mind Adolf grabbing Poland if he'd get a share. Katyn was a Russian massacre on the Polish intelligence. German forces found the mass graves I guess 1943. The Goebbels propaganda used the news and nobody believed it. After the war Katyn was not allowed to have taken place, Poland was pushed to the West by Stalin and the "Volksdemokratie" that later was established did not see a need to discuss Sowjet war crimes.

Interestingly the Polish resistance against what they called Sowjet occupation found a basis in Western Germany, the eastern intelligence commited murder attacks in the fifties and sixties for example in Munich and other places here.